HWBC go You Tube

Friday 7th September 2007 saw the inaugural HWBC Golf Day & BBQ at the PGA National Palmerstown House course in Johnstown Co. Kildare. Follow this link for brief video highlights....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YIKpHiqRBU

The golf scramble was won by the four man team (pictured below) of Eamon McHugh (McHugh Kinsella), Brian Hayes TD, Dermot Murphy (IAWS Group) and Simon Coyle (Mazars) who finished ahead of the other 80 golfers who partook in the shotgun start which ensured everyone was finished in time to join the non golfing fraternity for a post game BBQ. This includued live coverage of France v Argentina in the opening match of RWC 2007 on the specially installed big screen with analysis and insight provided by special guest Brent Pope.

The days other celebrity, Mike Murphy of Harcourt Developments and RTE was unlucky not to capture first prize with his playing partners; Brendan O' Regan (Boundary Capital), Fergus Dowd (Irish Life) and Declan Power (HWBC), as they finished in second place, just 0.65 of a shot off the lead.

A thoroughly enjoyable days (and evenings) entertainment was had by all and plans are already afoot to repeat the event again next year provided of course the weather agrees to co-operate again!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YIKpHiqRBU

Paris & Irishtown

Came across this on the blog of an ex-employee of PropertyWeek. Good ol' L! We still remember her with fondness.

Clarke Auctioneers

This is another commendable agent website. Clear, concise, easily navigable and attractive. Not sure who designed it but it's an excellent site! www.clarkeauctioneers.com

Property Monkey is confused by mixed messages

From the Irish Independent: "THE Broadcasting Complaints Commission yesterday rejected a complaint of bias against an RTE programme about the property market.

'Future Shock: Property Crash', broadcast on RTE1 last April, looked at the possibility of property prices in Ireland falling in the future.

The Irish Auctioneers and Valuers Institute made a formal complaint to the Broadcasting Complaints Commission, claiming that the programme had not been impartial and had a detrimental affect on the property market".

Builders are experiencing widespread layoffs from sites, this was the first sign mentioned in the programme wasn't it? And the BCC are affirming that it wasn't completely made up nonsense! Are the skies darkening...

Chin up, room for optimism

According to today's Department of the Environment Q1 2007's Housing Statistics Bulletin: "The average price of a new house nationally was €320,969 in the first quarter 2007, which was 9% higher than the average price in the same quarter in 2006. The average price of a second hand house nationally was €379,874 in the first quarter 2007, which was 9% higher than the average price in the same quarter in 2006". This seems to buck the trend of recent reports from various institutions & agencies which have widely reported a stagnant housing market at best with many areas experiencing a fall in prices. The methodology of these house prices is based on loans approved by lending agencies so whether it is 100% accurate, especially in the face of overwheming evidence suggesting the contrary, is up for debate. There is also the fact that prices were still rising in Q2 2006 so this may also explain favourable results for Q1 2007 when compared with the same period last year. Anyway it's nice to see a report challenging the doomsayers and giving people some room for optimism.

GVM's website is admirable

Created by some crowd called DESIGNWORX.ie based in Limerick and using some (I would guess) in-house code they are packaging as Property Hub, hoping perhaps to make it available to other agents.

The thing is, it is clearly influenced, in my opinion, by Blog designs (like this Blogger one), and I like that.

To deny or not to deny the elephant in the room

Kelly Hudson don't ignore it: on the HEADER of their website, against a clear blue sky they proclaim:

Kelly Hudson can promise an experience that puts "honesty" and "hard work" in the same sentence as "estate agent".

The implication is that one doesn't usually find them in the same sentence, or find these virtues evidenced in the work of estate agents.

The only problem is, by putting them in inverted commas they could be misinterpreted - you might end up reading them sarcastically, imagining the agent doing the "" inverted comma thing with their fingers while saying them with a sarcastic grin on their face.

Gob stoppingly poor standards

This has got to be the worst-ever description of a property Agent PW has ever come across. It's for a 1-bed cottage bang on the coast in Co Clare between Kinvara and Ballyvaughan.

"The Mother Of All Locations!!!
Stunning Holiday Cottage Which Offers Privacy Most Rarely Seen In A Setting That Is Eye Watering"

At €500,000 one would hope they'd have more to say about it in the description than this drivel. If I was the vendor I'd have them taken off the instruction immediately.

How to join the church of latter day ethical estate agents

This gimmick is not just very funny, clever & up-to-date, it actually works as marketing.

http://www.tedtruitt.com/

Having looked at it, you're ready, you're primed & receptive in fact for a really interesting angle on the difficulty estate agents have in terms of their public image.

Unfortunately, what you get in the target website on an ethical code for estate agents is packaged very badly - a failure in terms of marketing/communications - totally over the top, too "clean" & idealised, not direct enough:

http://thecodeisgoodbusiness.com/

Therefore, as a combination, it's a strange juxtaposition of what you might call a European-like, satirical piece of marketing with a classic bit of po-faced American preaching.

Imagine giving out badges to your employees who had shown respect for a code of ethics! They'd laugh in your face & rightly so.

Euphemistic Madness, Propertymonkey to the rescue.

Estate agents have conducted some excellent research over the last ten years or so as house prices have experienced unprecedented growth levels. I always wondering though, how news would be managed if prices began to go downwards instead. This finally started to occur over the last few months. One leading agent/economist describes how “the average price of a second-hand property in Ireland eased back moderately by 1.1% during the first three months of 2007”. Also "House prices eased further in the Dublin second hand market in the first quarter of the year with prices falling back by 2.3%". Correct me if I’m wrong but is “eased back” not a fall, drop or decrease? In conjunction with this we are told that if certain areas are excluded from the analysis, even a slight increase can be detected from the figures. Is there any need to soften a soft landing? Enough of this fluffiness I say, let’s call a spade a spade. Propertymonkey is no fool!

Worth a wager?

With the political parties' promises to abolish or significantly extend stamp duty exemption levels for first time buyers, Paddy Power is offering odds on how the election outcome might impact on non First Timers. 4/6 is being offered on stamp duty being abolished on second hand homes (up to the value of €500,000) while 11/10 is available for those who fancy No.

The mighty Quinn

This image reflects one of the most bizarre phenomena of the Irish property market: that some agents do not include the asking price of the properties they are selling on behalf of their clients in the advertising that those same clients ultimately pay for.

I find it hard to believe that some agents don't record other details of properties: floor area, year of construction, size of plot etc. But PRICE, the damn price they are seeking - how can it be that they wouldn't advertise that? If I'm searching in a particular price range, how am I to know they have properties that match?

What do the clients think? Well, if John Quinn's success in Galway is anything to go by - they are not too bothered. This agent lists about 15% of the properties coming on the market in Galway city, and yet doesn't include prices in either his advertising in the Advertiser or on his website. (He does allow you to search in large price brackets, but is this sufficient?) One of his tag lines on the site is: Galway's New Generation of Estate Agents. Aaaagh!

We're trying to encourage transparency in the market, most recently introducing a way for agents to exchange information on private treaty results, and yet this is what we are up against.

Mr Tayto is not alone

Ph: Paddy 087 **** ***

Just noticed an ad in the Commercial Property supplement of the Irish Independent from last week:

ONE KING sized room, €500 p/m, new house, sky T.V. in room, Ph: Paddy 087 6*4 *6*0

Good luck to you, Paddy, wherever you are!

"The state of the place"

We've been house hunting and sniffing around a particular house a few times now. I won't go into the ins & outs of the house itself, but what's worth commenting on here is the condition the vendors have the house in for selling. It's like they had no intention whatsoever of selling: a complete mess all over. They do have a few excuses - children, packing for the move, a relaxed attitude to housekeeping. But excuses aside, they seem to have completely ignored the advice of the estate agent (who is slightly embarrassed by the state of the place) and all the Tips for Selling they can't have missed down the years.

The funny thing is: it's not really putting us off. There's other things to do that.

Donegal property frenzy will make you green

Just talking to an agent in Donegal and discovered that property is selling so fast there they have trouble actually getting it up on the websites!!

There's a frenzy of buying both by investors (aware that it is THE? cheapest county for property) and by people moving from Northern Ireland where the cost of living is so much higher in terms of property taxes.

JEALOUS? Bet you are.

Pic by toasty5 via www.sxc.hu

Even artists are willing to lend a hand to the property market

Celebrated abstract painter, Felim Egan, goes along with the idea of using his public persona to promote the best possible sale terms for his home in Sandymount - as featured in the Irish Times property supplement today. And why wouldn't he!

Property websites multiplying

You've surely noticed the battle on for domination of the online property advertising market. Propertynews.com announced last week that it "has captured over 65 per cent market share of all property for sale on the island of Ireland"; it called itself "the leading and fastest growing property portal in the Republic of Ireland and in Northern Ireland" (presumably combining the two markets, in which case it might as well have said "only property portal"!!), and "number one website"; and it claimed to carry "listings from over 1,000 estate agents and auctioneers" (again, presumably combining North & South).

No sooner has a claim been made, but a counter-claim follows. In a recent radio campaign, MyHome.ie was quite dismissive of these kinds of claims. Daft.ie use its website to show the figures for their claim to be "Ireland's busiest website". And both Daft.ie & Propertynews.com are now themselves advertising on radio; Funda is on television (with snails, ducks & so on); and MyHome.ie is fighting back with all its indignant might (including the property pages of the Irish Times). There must be much to protect.

And indeed, property advertising attracts an incredible amount of entrepreneurial interest. There are so many Irish property websites out there now it is becoming hard to keep track, so we're going to do so here.

This item will be added to as we come across them, and we have a feature in the pipeline on how the main ones compare to one another:

Advertising Portals -
MyHome.ie
Daft.ie
Propertynews.com
Funda.ie
Baile.ie
Sherlockhomes.ie
Findahome.ie
Propertyfile.net
Newgaff.ie
Huntforproperty.ie
Property.ie
Mychoice.ie
Yourchoice.ie
Firsthome.ie
Propertyselector.com
(Irishpropertymoves.ie)
(Propertyplace.ie)
(Moving.ie)
(Houses.ie)

Cork - epropertygold.com
Mayo - Goinggoing.net

In the meantime, here's what MyChoice.ie has to say about their offering:

"Mychoice.ie is the better property website to deal with the properties in Dublin." At least they didn't claim to be the "best"!!!!


(Pic by James Wilsher via www.sxc.hu)

Construction or development?

According to the Business Post's analysis of the top 50 construction companies list (Business Pro), "The figures highlight the high profit margins being achieved by some property developers. ... By contrast, profit margins are much tighter for building contractors."

The analysis mentions Liam Carroll's success in the office market: "Carroll is also planning an office development in the Dublin docklands, which has attracted Anglo Irish Bank and O'Donnell Sweeney solicitors as tenants even before planning permission is granted." and suggests that "Those deals may stem from Carroll's remarkable ability to undercut the rents on offer from other developers in order to secure tenants."

Another tactic is mentioned in relation to Sean Mulryan's Ballymore: "Mulryan has made millions from high-rise apartment schemes in London's docklands, often timing the launches to coincide with the payment of bonuses by financial firms in the city."

There is speculation about Gerry Gannon of Gannon Homes: "In recent months he is understood to have bought a significant parcel of land next to Hazelhatch train station near Celbridge in Co Kildare."

Measuring effort

Austin Hughes told Property Partners that "Once growth is sustained, declines in property values are fairly unusual, occurring with only a 1 in 4 probability." But if they were your odds of surviving a storm you'd be worried, wouldn't you.

With such increased volumes of houses on the market (up 50% in Dublin this quarter on Q1 2006 according to our data), and such reduced numbers of buyers apparently putting their money down on the table, there's a whole new dynamic in the market.

In new homes, marketing services providers can expect to be asked to go to even greater lengths to promote their clients' developments. A grand piano was brought into the showhouse in Cairnbrook at the weekend release & a pianist hired to play for gathered hunters.

In the second-hand market, things are a little more difficult because most of the marketing tactics that new developments can utilise are not appropriate.

Agents are certainly having to work a lot harder to find and hook buyers right across the residential board, to be more careful about leads and follow-through. The question is will some start to think they could do better in some other sector of business, with the same or even less effort.

The bottom line is, if the fees are not paying the bills, cutbacks will ensue and people will start to (or be forced to) look elsewhere for a decent living.

Having written ourselves recently about the time agents put into each sale, we were pleased to see Mr Day in Lisney saying something similar to the Business Post at the weekend: "it was more a case of agents turning away work, based on the fact they didn’t believe the fee justified the amount of work involved. Day said the saleability of the property, coupled with the amount of time an agent expects to devote to a property, dictated the fee."

But is it amazing that a statement like this can end up in the same article: "Currently, people have to pay on average 1 per cent, which means an agent earns about €3,000 when he or she sells a house for €300,000. That’s a lot of money for little effort, especially in recent years."

"Little effort"? What does that mean? Where's the footnote for the research indicating how "effort" was measured? Does it take into consideration time? Attention to detail? Thoroughness of follow-up? Market knowledge & expertise? Skill at reading people, at negotiating?

How much "effort" has gone into creating companies & brands like Lisney, like Sherry FitzGerald that can sell homes in style? Does the Business Post's defintion of "effort" here include any aspect of how much over the vendor's ideal price the agent achieved for them? How much over the price they'd have been able to get for themselves? How much over the price another agent would get?

Or what about how much less stress the vendor experiences by not having to deal with all kinds of buyers themselves, from nosy neighbours to professional tyre-kickers to hard-nosed investors to nit-picking innocents? Or how much less stress one agent causes than another?


Art by Porter Mason at http://bassistwanted.com/